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Episode 58 - Into the Land of the Unicorns, by Bruce Coville

January 13, 2020 by Grace Harnois

Madeleine and Grace travel to Luster and encounter plenty of childhood memories along the way! Into the Land of the Unicorns by Bruce Coville kicks off the Unicorn Chronicles, introducing us to friends like Lightfoot, the Dimblethum, Thomas the Tinker and the inimitable Squijum. While discussing the warm embrace of Coville’s unicorn world, we reminisce about our bizarre childhood writing and harken back to Madeleine’s opus, “The Adventures of Stupid Turtle.”

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The partially censored “Tasia N. Book”

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Other Dragon Babies episodes we mentioned that you may enjoy:

  • The Black Cauldron, by Lloyd Alexander

  • The Last Unicorn, by Peter S. Beagle

  • ….all our Tamora Pierce episodes, too many to list but you can find them wherever you listen to podcasts!

Here There Be Unicorns, by Jane Yolen

Magic Man aka Thomas the Tinker


January 13, 2020 /Grace Harnois
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Episode 57 - The Queen of Attolia, by Megan Whalen Turner

December 31, 2019 by Grace Harnois

The Queen of Attolia has it all - back and forth kidnapping, multi-kingdom wars, spies, queasy love stories, and that scamp Eugenides continuing to fool us all. We’re continuing our exploration of the The Queen’s Thief series by Meghan Whalen Turner, and while we have a few issues with a romance that begins with amputation, we’re dazzled by Turner’s tricky plot filled with winking secrets. Listen in and experience Madeleine railing against the gods, Grace wondering at fantasy nihilism, and both sisters engaging in some illness-fueled squabbling. It’s the Dragon Babies way!

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Other episodes mentioned during this episode:

  • The Thief, by Megan Whalen Turner

  • Crown Duel, by Sherwood Smith

Nemesis comics from Hark! A Vagrant, by Kate Beaton

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December 31, 2019 /Grace Harnois
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Episode 56 - Many Waters, by Madeleine L'Engle

December 09, 2019 by Grace Harnois

We’ve arrived at our most scandalous episode to date, and it all starts with the saucy paperback cover featuring a shirtless Sandy and Dennys under a soft-eyed angel. Yes, we’re diving into Many Waters, by Madeleine L’Engle, and we’re rushing to get out of dodge before the flood while also wondering whether the Oasis deserves all this apocalyptic punishment in the first place! Madeleine and Grace take uncharacteristically opposing stances on this one, and debate the merits of a YA retelling of a biblical doozy. Tiny mammoths abound and things get sandy. You’re welcome to try to approach a unicorn, but first we’ll need to know - do you have your driver’s license? Whether you’re a fan of the Deux Ex Manticore or not, we think there’s plenty to explore in this trippy journey back in time.

NOTE - While still technically clean, this episode features discussion of sexual content present in the book and may not be suitable for young listeners.

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A few great Many Waters critiques:

Biblical Fantasy: Many Waters, by Mari Ness

Virtual Unicorns: Religion and Science in Many Waters, by Laura Gibbs

And a very funny piece by the always brilliant Daniel Mallory Ortberg

December 09, 2019 /Grace Harnois
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Episode 55 - Beauty, by Robin McKinley

November 18, 2019 by Grace Harnois

We revisited Beauty, by Robin McKinley, and were left asking the same question this centuries-old fairy tale always inspires: is this relationship… okay? You can probably guess our answer, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t check out our journey into McKinley’s gorgeous, gothic fantasy story. We follow Beauty as she learns to love herself (inside and out) and appreciate a more melancholy, thoughtful Beast. Join us!

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Lindsay Ellis’ video essay on Disney’s Beauty and the Beast (2017)

Crimson Peak (2015)

November 18, 2019 /Grace Harnois
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MINI EPISODE - Over the Garden Wall & Children's Fantasy

October 30, 2019 by Grace Harnois

This is a special Halloween mini episode about our favorite animated miniseries, Over the Garden Wall! We explore the children’s fantasy literature and fairy tales that influenced the series, as well as our own nostalgic twinges inspired by the Unknown.

Thanks so much for the special episode idea, Amy! If you have a request of your own, get in touch at dragonbabiespodcast@gmail.com.

We discuss a TON of pieces of animated ephemera in this episode - you can find links to all below!

Grace’s introduction:

I went into Over the Garden Wall pretty blind, knowing only that it was created by an Adventure Time storyboard artist. Within the first 10 minutes, I had forgotten about Adventure Time, up to that point my most beloved cartoon, entirely. The muted brown forest backdrop overlaid with striking, searing blazes of color depicting an eternal autumn; two oddly matched brothers in a cone hat and a teakettle, accompanied by an erstwhile frog and sharp-tongued bluebird; the layers of buried memories of my favorite 70’s and 80’s-era animations that went rented from Blockbuster or taped off basic cable coming to an abrupt head.

Each successive episode adds a new layer to the enchanted wood, weaving together miniature personal dramas like a woeful schoolteacher’s no good two-timing Jimmy Brown of a fiancé and life or death stakes culminating in a frozen Greg marching determinedly through the snow, alone but with hope still in his heart. To say that this series is rewatchable is to do it a disservice. It must be rewatched, again and again, and the jokes will still make you laugh, and the art will still make you marvel, and Greg and Wirt and Beatrice will still make you wish that you could spend a day exploring alongside them.

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Tome of the Unknown

Frogland

Art of Over the Garden Wall from Dark Horse Comics

Journey Back to Oz

The Ichabod Crane Song (*note - contrary to Madeleine’s memory it is not actually 9 minutes long)

Higglety Pigglety Pop! or There Must Be More to Life by Maurice Sendak

The Over the Garden Wall soundtrack

October 30, 2019 /Grace Harnois
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